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00:00 Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld, along with Emily Campagno, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters, and she takes a bath in a pistachio shell. Dana Brino, The Five. 00:18 Vice President J.D. Vance warning Republican voters that they can't afford to sit the midterms out or the crazies will be running the show. 00:26 There is a lot of good that we've done over the past 18 months. Even if you don't agree with us on every issue, the other party is consumed by craziness. They're consumed by people who want to steal everything, who want to give the country over to illegal aliens and criminals. At least we're motivated by common sense and American interests. They're just motivated by left-wing interest groups and radicalism. 00:50 Vance also reportedly telling Republican lawmakers to laser in on one of the crazies, name checking Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El Saeed. Earlier, the fireworks hating doctor was in D.C. trying to reassure more than 20 Democratic senators that he's one of them. and that his poolside buddy, Hassan Piker, doesn't speak for him. 01:10 Fine, talk about me. 01:11 Do you know what I'm going to be talking about? Gas, groceries, how hard it is to see a doctor, the fact that our kids' schools still look like they did 30 years ago. And so long as J.D. doesn't want to talk about things that actually matter, we're going to watch. You're disavowing Hassan Piker, shifting to the world. This conversation is so far removed from what people are talking about. 01:32 People don't care about it. They don't care about what Hassan Piker was campaigning with you. 01:37 They really don't care about that. They don't think that a streamer in California is raising the price of their gas or their groceries. You know who's doing that? The guy right down there who lives in the White House, he's doing it. 01:47 We're going to do another campus tour with Hassan Piker. Yeah, I think that's it. 01:50 No. 01:53 You know, Danny, the argument Vance is making is a lot like what they did with Democrats did with Trump. It's like, you know, you need to vote to keep him out and that it's just not enough to vote Trump in. You've got to be vigilant. 02:07 Yes. And so and I've you know, my brilliant analysis always is going to come down to turnout. 02:14 And that's what the vice president was trying to say. But really, I think that they were just they were accepting reality. The Democrats are going to make this election about Trump. 02:22 Yeah. 02:23 And so Trump is like, fine, let's make it about me. And I think that one of the things that the convention will be remembered for is it was really the first time In the 2028 cycle, if I could say that it looked like J.D. Vance just stepped out from the shadow of President Trump. He gave one of the best speeches at the convention. And he loves to mix it up with Abdul El-Sayed, about the same age. It's actually an interesting matchup, very ideologically different. And it might be good, not just for a rhetorical argument, but also on the principles. 02:54 The Republicans have to focus on Republicans coming home. But I don't necessarily think it's just the base. Right. Because if you're looking at independence or if you want to call moderate Republicans, establishment Republicans, they they need to have a reason to turn out as well. And so a lot of that micro targeting is going to be done in the next little bit. The other thing for Republicans to be happy about today is that President Trump is opening up the wallet and the spigot and will help them try to drive home the point that the contrast of against the opponents of the Republicans are nuts. 03:27 Mm hmm. So you're going to see a lot of that. And I think some of these polls, whereas they're very tight right now, or even Democrats slightly ahead, that will start to change, I believe, by the second week of October. 03:39 Very, very, very prescient. You know, Jesse, what would be the reasons you would give to turnout? Are they roughly the same as Mr. Vance's? Do you have anything that you would say? 03:51 What he's saying, and I'm not a politician. I just help these guys from a chair. 03:57 He's saying, you know, we haven't done everything right, but doesn't mean you don't kick us out and put in the party that did everything wrong. 04:04 Everybody remembers they did everything wrong. And all these Democrats running for these Senate seats, they all believe in abolishing ICE, abolishing private health insurance. 04:14 They are all for open borders and they all want to take your guns and raise your taxes and snip off. You know what? 04:20 That is crazy. So just hammer it and spend the money to do it. This Michigan race is really, really tight. The Democrats have decided to nominate a guy people love, but also people really hate. There is going to be a significant slice of blacks, Jews, independents and Democrats who will not vote for Abdul no matter what, just will not vote for him. 04:44 So the Piker faction thinks this is a movement and thinks this guy's the Messiah and are going to knock on doors and raise money and do the lawn signs. And they're going to turn this thing out. And they have to be cautious about that because that's where the energy is in the party. Now, he's never going to disavow Piker. 05:06 He is Piker. Piker's the base. They agree on pretty much everything. They're both pro third world socialists who want to knock America, capitalism and Israel down to size. He helped him win the primary and they hang out. They bro out. I mean, what are you going to just throw this guy overboard? No. Then you're going to look like you're pandering. Then you're going to look like you caved. You know, you almost have to respect his loyalty and his commitment to the cause. The cause is crazy. It's un-American. But I wish Republicans would do that. 05:38 When there's a Republican guy in the coalition that says something, maybe does something a little bit, woo-hoo, Everybody's like, goodbye, goodbye. They don't even think. How about a little Republican commitment to the cause? To the bit. How about how about a little forgiveness? That's what we've been reading about in the Bible. Maybe we forgive our people. Maybe we're not so quick to throw our guys overboard because this thing is a tight election and every person counts. 06:03 I don't know. I don't know if I agree with you. I think that's what makes us different is that we do throw them overboard if they're freaks. 06:10 No, I mean, we don't have the kind of freaks they do. We're basically all pro-American. But if you say something and the media is like, what are you going to disavow? What are you going to disavow? Screw you guys. You know, you guys are not on my side. I'll do what I want to do. 06:23 All right. Emily, Jesse makes two good points that the Democrats are hoping that you forget that these people were crazy just a few years ago when they were in power. And they're also hoping you don't. 06:36 see that they're only moderate when they're up for election. It's the same trick that they play. 06:41 Which also, that's what J.D. Vance is asking the Republican voters to do, which is you don't have to love everything to vote for it. And I think that's really brilliant strategy. It's like moving something from criminal court to civil court. You're lowering the burden of proof. So here, he's lowering the threshold that Republicans have to cross. So normally... he would say, are Republicans perfect? People are judging midterms based on performances and promises. And now he's saying, let's compare the risk instead. 07:12 And that's why it's important to put El-Sayed on every single ballot, even though he's not running every race, because it's a preview. It's saying, look, are Republicans perfect? No. But is the alternative more appealing? A resounding no. It's a preview of Democrats in charge, and that is a horror movie trailer. So to your point, Al-Sayed represents, sure, some say the radical faction and we're not all there. We're not all Piker. But that's what it could be. And that's the magnet right now. So I think he's drawing an important distinction for voters, which is, look, a protest vote or a protest non-vote is still handing the Democrat the keys. 07:50 And this is what handing the keys over looks like. 07:52 Mm. You know, Harold, I do believe Democrats always have an advantage because they pay attention to politics all the time. And Republicans and righties and libertarians only pay attention when they're forced to your cohort. Jessica said this in her book. I read it. The right doesn't take politics as seriously as the left. It's not the most important thing in our lives. Should we start taking it as seriously as you guys? 08:16 It's good to be around the table. I disagree with Jessica and you on that. I think people take politics on both sides very seriously. And let me... 08:24 Disagree with a couple of things. Premises around the table is as happy as I hand me back around the table. I think elections, midterm elections are always about whomever the president is, his party or her. We'll say her one day, hopefully soon. That party gets judged by the voters. And it's what he has said he's going to do that gets gets judged. Where I agree with a lot around the tables, I think elections have gotten crazy crazy. from the standpoint of the last five or six cycles in that each side, no one campaigns for what they're going to do. 08:55 They all campaign on how crazy the other side is. And I don't doubt, I don't deny, I would not have voted for some of these people that Democrats nominated in many of these states, but they have been nominated. You look at the polling data, and some people take from the polling data, Democrats are ahead generically in a lot of the polls. For the first time, I saw a poll showing Democrats at 50 percent plus compared to Republicans in the generic polls. And to me, that's a real number. When it's below 50 and you're ahead by five or six points, it's not as serious as when you are ahead by 50 or more. And in this case, they are. I think for voters... We're all going to get short. 09:27 We're all going to get short at this election because neither party is going to give us a set of definitive answers. And I say that for this reason. Mr. Trump, when he won, said no wars. I'm going to lower prices. Gas is almost at five dollars. Diesel is at six twenty three, a record high. We've escalated or restarted a trade war with Canada. The war in Iran seems no no end in sight in the Ukrainian world. We don't even talk about. And that is driving up energy costs in many ways. That's the craziness, I think, on the Republican side. Democrats, there's no doubt we have some crazies talking about spending too much money. 09:59 We have crazies talking about some even talking about anti-Semitism in the worst and most vicious of ways. And the question for voters is which crazy are they going to tolerate? Because Democrats are likely not going to give them a set of answers between now and November. And the answers that Republicans are giving them, which is we're going to stay in this war. We're going to keep the tariffs. Prices are going to remain high. But they're so bad. Vote for us. That's the issue, I think, for voters, Greg. And we're going to see over the next few weeks which crazy wins. 10:30 All right. Well, I just want to thank you. I won $5,000 today at DraftKings because I said you would say table more than four times. 10:41 Well, don't tell them what we talked about before this year. Give me my $2,500. Yeah. 10:45 Up next, Cory Booker wasn't playing it. I'm serious. 10:50 Cory not playing straight with his questions to cash. 10:52 He's not even a good lackey. He's an incompetent lackey. He's like an 18-year-old kid who wants to join a fraternity that he could never be a member of, doing keg stands and chugging with friends. He's an embarrassment to the agency. 11:19 That's a great time. 11:25 Violent crime is down across the country, but Democrats had little to say about that during a very combative FBI oversight hearing. Director Cash Patel facing the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday, as he does every year, where a routine oversight hearing turned into a no-holds-barred shouting match. Democrats like Cory Booker raged and interrupted Patel until committee chairman Chuck Grassley laid down the law like he only... 11:49 This is ridiculous. This is a sham. And what's bad is not the person sitting there who's a mockery to the office he holds. What is bad is the people that are enabling him to do so. Shame on you, sir. 12:01 Director Patel, were you done? By the way, violent crime arrests by the FBI in New Jersey are up 75% on top of the historic results we've already delivered for the American people. Yeah, thanks to the state police, irrespective of the lies that he continues to tell. There are nothing I have said here is a lie. You said your time's up. Are you done or not? Are you done or not? 12:19 You want to answer my questions? 12:21 If you want my questions, go to the next person. This is ridiculous. What a mockery you are. You are the biggest mockery in the United States Senate, and you're sitting next to the ship. 12:28 Yeah, well, 8 million people in New Jersey don't think so. At least I didn't get my job the way you got your job. 12:33 Are you going to interfere with Senator Graham asking her questions too? I certainly will not. Too as well? I certainly will not. 12:40 Are you done now? I am done. Are you ready to shut up? I am done, sir. 12:45 One of the things that reminded me of, Greg, is when Kamala Harris went after Brett Kavanaugh. And what happened after that? She ran for president. And so I think there's a pattern. 12:56 I know. Corey loves mentioning how he got his job. And, you know, I don't care. Do you guys remember Robot Wars, where a team of geeks entered their robot against another team of geeks' robots? The whole point was the geeks didn't fight, their ideas did. It was like, who had the best? This is where we need AI. 13:18 Because when you look at Booker, what you're seeing is the disease, which is ego. 13:23 The ego drives his emotion. The grandstanding is just blatant desire for status. Frankly, it's kind of sad. A Senate hearing hearing is, I thought, you're supposed to like test claims against the evidence status. 13:40 And standards, whatever. Instead, you got senators performing for clips and their status. So there's no precision. There's just a performance. Imagine each side having an A.I. agent with an explicit brief. The Democrat agent very obviously would target the competency because they're the other sides in power. The Republican agency agent. AI agents shows their operational results. There's no drama. It could be amazing. You could still have humans there, but the people making the points, they don't have an ego. 14:13 And you still have the adversarial structure, but they're going at the issue, not each other. And so instead of having a shouting match, you would actually have an education, which means we will never do it. But the problem we're seeing here, and it's the worst thing ever, and in other jobs, It doesn't exist, which is the which is the elevation of the self and ego. You have somebody at work who does that. And I'm not talking about TV, but just in your office, you get rid of them. But here you reward people who put their ego first. 14:46 And that is terrible. 14:48 And then they try to fundraise off of it. 14:50 Yeah. 14:50 Yes. Emily, one of the things that was quite an accomplishment is that the FBI has captured the top 10 most wanted. And he was able to announce that the 10th had come in over the weekend. 15:01 Yeah. And was that takeaway, though, even amplified? Was that even heard under the theatrics? This, by the way, is why I hate reality television. And I never watch any of those shows. It makes me so uncomfortable. And I had to force myself to watch this. And then I'm like, wait a minute. This is this is I am paying their salaries. We are all paying their salaries to be incompetent, to get nothing done, to waste colossal amounts of time, to be self aggrandizing. And somehow they still get voted in. It kills me. Thanks to the FBI. 15:32 This country got safer. And instead, we were treated to a congressional tantrum. 15:37 Congress is supposed to, among legislating and apportioning finances, they're supposed to take a complicated issue for the public and make it clear for us. They're supposed to pull back the curtain so we understand how the administration and the country is operating. And instead, all we saw was the Cory Booker show, the Cory Booker circus. I'm so sick and tired of the fact that, to your point, there is zero accountability whatsoever for these Spartacus moments with a lisp that are somehow supposed to elevate him. 16:05 The good news from this hearing was that in 90 years plus of the FBI tracking crime for the first time, we decreased violent crime by almost 10 percent. But instead, the only news to come out of this was the performance, the theatrics, Grassley saying shut up, him saying that he's a buffoon. No, everything about this, I think, shows how much of a waste their salaries are. And what was lost in all of this is that there was really great news that the American people should have taken home. 16:34 Harold, can't we all agree that it's a good thing that violent crime is down? 16:39 We should. 16:41 There was a poll, some data we had on the show the other day that said a majority, an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that government is corrupt and an overwhelming majority of Americans distrust government. 16:56 This is a prime example of why. Corey, I've known a long time and is my friend. I agree with you, Emily, in the standpoint that, well, he is my friend. I mean, I don't know what. 17:04 You're friends with everybody, Harold. And frankly, I'm tired of this friend privilege. Will you disavow? I don't have any friends. 17:11 So that makes me good on this show. I was never friends with David Duke. But I'll say this. 17:16 I only drank with him once, Harold. 17:18 You were right. This does not raise the level of oversight. This does not raise the level of accountability from Congress. This does not raise the trust level. There was a time in Congress... when even if you really, really disliked the person that was testifying or that was coming before the committee, there were just norms you didn't and things you didn't breach. Now, it happens both sides. I saw Keith Ellison. I've seen Merrick Garland. I've seen Eric Holder come before. And it just gets worse and worse. And I don't disagree. That was as bad as it comes. I would have thought you might have asked, What are you doing differently than Joe Biden did and his team did to fight crime? 17:54 Are there things, lessons that can be learned for police departments around the country? What more are you guys doing to help find the killer, find the person abducted and likely may have killed Nancy Guthrie? What more money do you need to expand programs and initiatives that are working? That's what oversight was like. I felt like I'm a dinosaur at times when I was in Congress, which was just Wow. When I say it, 25 years ago, sounds like a long time. Those are the questions we ask in oversight hearings. There was always a little jabs and announcements, but now the whole thing has become this. Why not ask him, Mr. Patel, are you for the stop, stop Congress and the president from trading stocks? 18:31 Congress has been controlled by one party and they still have not passed that. That's what I'd be asking. The personal attacks have to stop. It doesn't bode well for us in this country. And remember, the rest of the world is watching as well. 18:43 Jesse Waters was watching. What'd you think? 18:44 Well, the personal attacks get Corey on MSNBC. If you ask about substance, you're not going on MSNBC and you're not raising money and you're not raising your profile to run for president. And if you create a smoke screen where people don't talk about all this drop in violent crime, then you're not going to realize that when you do focus on On the criminal, instead of putting Trump in prison and worrying about pronouns, you can actually keep the country safer. They don't want the audience to hear that. It's not only the top 10 most wanted. It's the top six fraudsters in the world. 19:17 They found more missing and trafficked children than have ever been found in the history of the United States just in 18 months. 19:24 I had to close down my factory. Yeah. 19:27 We had a World Cup with, like, millions of foreigners pouring into the country. Zero incidents. We had a safe Olympics. We had two safe Super Bowls. And they've been so transparent. We're getting all the goodies on Epstein, on Butler, on UFOs, on JFK. We're getting so much good stuff. Crime is down in such a prolific run that I think he should be allowed to fly his girlfriend all over the country on a plane. I think he deserves it. 19:54 What did we get on Epstein that I missed? Have you seen the stack of sheets on my table, Harold? We got everything that you didn't give out. 20:03 Yeah, you, Harold. You and your Democrats. Yeah, you and your friends. 20:07 You guys know how to get clicks. Bring that up. All right, up next, out with the old panic, in with the new. Democrats are ditching climate doom for AI doom. 20:17 I'm just saying all my inches would agree. Scream my name as you're working out the door. 20:33 Is save humanity from AI the left's new rallying cry? Democrat lawmakers are ditching climate doom for AI doom in the midterms, with Senator Elizabeth Warren becoming the latest prominent Democrat to back a pause on advanced AI. Watch. 20:49 We should immediately press pause on the development of advanced AI. And if you ask me, the recent calls by AI industry leaders to pace the frontier, that's not enough. The time to act is yesterday. 21:05 A capable president would move swiftly to secure and reassure the American people, rush inspectors into frontier labs, fortify the nation against bioterrorism, demand legislation from Congress, and lead the world toward an AI treaty. 21:21 But President Trump is compromised. 21:23 But the doomsday narrative may not be as organic as it looks. The New York Post is exposing Anthropic's handpicked super woke panel of watchdogs brought in to police their tech. A group of globalists who believe in open borders, genderless pronouns and promote effective altruism. But the pro AI crowd is hitting control alt delete on the fear campaign. 21:45 These Doomer narratives are ridiculous, and I think we should be embracing the industrial revolution, and we should be pushing back on these NGOs, by the way. The same thing they did last time with climate change, with killer bees, anything else. These guys want power. They want money. We shouldn't buy it. 21:57 I was the first CEO to come out, not in the software industry, to say the end of software is nonsense. It's going to make you use the software so much better. And so that's the first idea. The second idea... 22:11 This AI is going to destroy jobs. That's also completely nonsense. 22:16 All right, Jesse, let's start with you. That was your interview. 22:20 Oh, yeah. Lonsdale. Sharp guy. 22:23 Not as sharp as Jimmy Faglia, but he's up there. The you know, these these they thems that they created this little nonprofit for to make these companies look really scary. So they get regulated and get more powerful. It's like an orgy of self dealing. But we exposed it using A.I. 22:44 We can literally track their little web of dark money to show how they operate. And that is why Democrats are actually afraid of AI, because AI can solve a lot of the problems that Democrats have. make money from or just can't solve themselves like health care, like homelessness, like fraud. Besant used AI to find the Somali fraud. Now, if we actually get our hands on AI and start looking at insider trading in Congress and looking at all this dark money that pours into the Democrat piggy banks from overseas, they're screwed. 23:20 They know that, so they want to get their grubby little hands on it and control it. Now they're saying Trump doesn't know anything about AI. Yeah, he does. He used it in the last three campaigns to raise money and target voters. He tweets AI stuff of himself that Democrats are constantly freaked out about. When that pilot went down in Iran, the CIA used AI to locate them, okay? The president knows it a lot better than these guys. But if you're making a product that has a 25% chance of killing us, why are you releasing it? 23:53 The real truth is it's not going to go that way, okay? This thing's going to be fine. Everyone's going to survive. And I think if you had the politicians like you have now, like Bernie Sanders, imagine Bernie in the Cuban Missile Crisis. Oh, my God, we're all going to... We want politicians at least to be adults in the room and say, everybody calm down. We got everything under control. 24:16 All right. Let's go to the adult former politician in the room. Harold, Jesse brought up Besson and he sort of called out Maxine Waters and saying like these AI executives do have 100 percent power. If they think that the whole world is going to end on their watch, they have the power to stop it. 24:31 They do. But I think people the country is waiting on at some level governments. I harken back. We've talked a lot on the show about social media and the fact that we while it was really flourishing and it's still flourishing when it was building, we had a really light touch of government regulation towards it. In fact, we passed laws to not even hold them accountable if things were said on social media that might offend people, that might defame people, et cetera. Thank you. Thank you. 25:21 Aligning with with Bernie Sanders and others. And let me let me kind of want to be cheapest about this, but they're aligning saying there's a challenge here and there's an issue here. Now, do I think we should overregulate? No. But do I think what we're doing now is the right thing? I don't. When you have executives at a company saying there's a greater than 10 percent chance that we could find ourselves creating harm for ourselves. We need to take a listen to them. Now, there's a cynic out there that says, well, these people are only saying that because they want the government to invest more money in their companies and they want government to pick winners and losers. That may be the case, but I think it deserves some probing because not only are we investing incredible amounts of money to build out AI, which is diverting money from other important things. 26:00 Not only are we talking about displacing jobs and reformatting and reimagining what jobs are going to look like over the next five to 10 to 15 to 20 years. 26:09 Not only we talk about lost energy and lost water and lost power in communities and figuring out ways in which to rejuvenate that, we actually now have people saying that we could all be dead by the end of the decade. I don't know if it's true, but I know one thing. I don't want to take the risk. I think Congress and others ought to act. If they overact, we can always pull it back. What I fear is that we don't act and we're going to find ourselves in a worse situation a few years from now. 26:32 Harold brings up probing, so I go to Greg. 26:35 They never pull back. That's the scary part. Once they enact some kind of regulation, it's very hard to get it unregulated. I would... 26:44 I don't trust anybody that says the world's going to end. 26:47 So that's where I begin. And that's where I end. Now, I do, you know, in racing, here's an analogy. There's a yellow flag comes out after an accident. Everybody slows down, but they keep their place. From what I understand, it's almost the perfect analogy for the pause. As long as all the cars abide, that's the problem. China is the car that will lap everybody. They're not going to. And the only reason why that doesn't happen in a race is because you can watch it. You have an audience watching this. All the cars stay in their place. 27:17 People could see who cheats. It's easy to see one guy cheat. 27:22 So if you actually believe this, if all these people believe in it, why don't you open it all up and let everybody take a look? Let one company go to this company. Let this company go to that company. Just open up. They're not going to do it because we know this is BS. Look, The problem with this is there is actually a real concern over AI, but they've turned it into a cartoon, which is what they did with climate. There are probably really interesting concerns about, well, pollution being one of them, but they turned it into a cartoon. So for me, it's always going to be about hacking. 27:56 And, you know, if you have a password that's like eight letters or numbers long, there are 220 trillion combinations. But with AI, which operates on brute force, which is just throwing in every possible password until it gets the right one, you can come to that password in seconds. Or 200 years, depending on how you, what's the word, scramble the password, which means it's up to you to scramble the password, which you can do. And it's up to the company, the banks, to make sure that they're changing things every single day. 28:30 That's the big problem for all of us is hacking. And we're on top of that. This other stuff, this apocalyptic stuff. They can't give you anything. Lastly, I want to talk about the panel. You know, borders and biologies are the easiest tests for a grasp on reality. You know, if you can't figure those two out, you should not be in control of the most powerful tech on Earth. Because this is why you will all see it when I say this, that if they aren't in control of you will be the safety problem. 29:05 Because if you have a political disagreement with them and the things that they are doing, that will become a moral evil. And they will not say AI is the problem. They will say you are the problem, which is what we have seen in social media and during COVID. So it's almost like hiring a TSA screener who says X-raying luggage stigmatizes terrorists or These are not the right people to be in charge. 29:34 Can I ask you? Okay. Yeah, go. I understand the politicians, but there are people at these companies who have said, this stuff has really, really gotten to a point where we've got to think differently about it. And then, too, you said the hacking. Remember, these AI bots attack companies, breach their protocols. Yeah. 29:51 Yeah, but we talked about that when you weren't here, and I don't want to. 29:54 I saw, but I didn't. I thought your answer then was not. 29:56 Hugging face. Do you want to know the whole story about a hugging face? That was a that was a protocol failure in a test where they actually had it already disabled. That's what happened. But they didn't actually escape. 30:07 But there have been 10 others that that happened in as well. 30:10 Harold, that's why you program it to be safer before you release. They did. And the thing was a test. You're testing it. 30:16 Gotcha. 30:17 No, Harold. 30:17 What about the first question that the people at the companies have said? 30:21 Then we have to go person by person. The whistleblower wasn't a whistleblower. He was only working there for three months. And what did he blow? Nothing. He didn't tell us anything new. You have people that do the, I mean, actually, it's only really anthropic and open AI that are saying these things. When you look at the, what's his name, Jensen? Smartest guy in the room, the NVIDIA dude. He's like, this is unconscionable. But Elon said it's bad, too. Yeah. But what he said is what and what I cribbed from is that all you need to do then is just open it up. 30:53 Let let us look at Anthropic, let Anthropic look at that. But he also said China, who knows if they'll go for it. So he's, you know, I think that idea is a great idea. But he's also playing it. He's also playing his own game. He knows no one's going to stop. 31:06 Dana, two things I thought were interesting. I know, but we don't have time. Sorry. 31:09 Oh, come on. No, no, no. We have to go. 31:10 We have to go. You want me to go? I'll say one thing. The people who said the world was going to end in 12 years because of climate change have now completely changed their position. It's actually going to be one year, and it's AI. And all of these Democrats are pushing the tech companies and the tech bros to the Republicans because they have nowhere else to go because the Republicans are still the party of business. 31:29 I hope you all are right about this. I really do. We usually are. You're never wrong, Harold. How can I be wrong? 31:33 Up next, crybaby Robert De Niro needs his TDS binky. 31:53 Welcome back. Amy Poehler making Robert De Niro weep like a raging crybaby after spending two minutes praising the bad grandpa actor as a fearless Trump fighter who makes people feel safe. 32:06 I just personally want to thank you for like doing what you do and speaking out in the way that you do about where we are in the world. It makes everybody feel very safe. And so I've seen you do it over and over again, and I really appreciate it. 32:20 Thank you. 32:21 And this is going to be a real switcheroo because I can't believe I just made you cry. I feel incredible right now. Hold on. We've got to get you your tissues. 32:30 I didn't want to see Robert De Niro cry. 32:33 I feel like I think less of him as a man and an actor. 32:40 And I think the use of the word safe there, it's just embarrassing. And it's it's such a punch in the face to the people who actually have to find out what being unsafe is on the streets under Democrats and sanctuary city watches. And it reminded me of a couple of years ago when Kendall Jenner ate fries before some red carpet event and this magazine covered it and they literally called it brave. And obviously they got excoriated. But it's like, you know, talking to a World War Two veteran and you're like, you know, hey, you you you what? fought in the Battle of the Bulge and you liberated Dachau. 33:13 But did you eat fries before a red carpet event? Because that's what would make you really brave. Like, save it, De Niro. Just go back to Tribeca. 33:21 Do you think if anybody, Harold, told you that you were a great Fox News host, you would break down in tears? Yeah. 33:29 I'm thankful and grateful when people approach me in public and say nice things about this show and say nice things about me. But they were acting, I thought. I thought, look, he's good fellows. He was godfather. Look, I think he was acting. Oh, those were fake tears. 33:41 He's that good of an actor. 33:43 I was just saying to Greg that I feel like if he were being interviewed by Robert Herr, remember the guy that was the special counsel? 33:51 Remember what Robert Herr said about Biden? He said the jury would see him as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory. 33:59 Aw, that's a great banner, Cape Tear. 34:03 I care less about De Niro these days that the idea of him as a tough guy, like he was in the movies, was shattered years ago. He's a broken person. I'm more disappointed in Amy Poehler, who's become another Stepford wife. They used to portray the Stepford wife as a pliant, robotic follower of a traditional 1950s housewife. But how hilarious is it that it's turned out that the Stepford wife is a pliant, robotic regurgitator of wokeism? It's like their bodies were snatched and they have no idea when or why. 34:37 And they're all the same. De Niro's you know, he's showing how a relationship can have an effect on your behavior over time. And the relationships that he has with Trump, and he does have one with Trump constantly, is of his doing. Every interaction deposits something, and it's always contempt. And over time, a relationship just compounds that interest. This is what people exiting TDS realize, that once they change their behavior, They realized that they were taking the poison. 35:12 They were taking the poison they thought they were giving to Trump. He's going to die an angry, sad man, and she's egging it on. That's the sad part. 35:23 And you're going to die a happy old man. Well, I hope old. At least good looking. 35:29 Coming up next, a fashion boss tries to snuff out some PETA protesters. 35:48 Chaos on the catwalk. A top fashion executive is taking a leave of absence after video appears to show him grabbing and muzzling two PETA protesters who disrupted a New York Fashion Week show over the designer's use of wool. 36:03 We're all out of this guy. 36:04 DP, what are your thoughts about this? He should be given the keys to the city. 36:09 He should be given an award. President Trump should give him a medal. 36:14 I think what he did was brave and courageous and will help prevent other incidents like this. 36:19 What do you think about this, Emily? 36:20 What I loved, what he is doing is what everyone wishes someone would do in all of these public things. And unfortunately, he had to apologize afterward and say, I should have let security do it. We applaud you. 36:30 Well, where was security? 36:32 Your thoughts, Primetime? I mean, I like the effort. I don't like the technique. 36:38 I would have just grabbed this woman by the back of her elbows and just pushed her out of the building. I wouldn't have stand there and thrown my leg on top of her, my hand in her face, just sat there. 36:49 Miss Exclamation Point, your thoughts? 36:51 So what's wrong with wool? Like, you're just shaving an animal, right? Right. The animal's fine. Yeah, we shave. Yeah, exactly. It's like, what's the problem? She probably doesn't. You should be happy with wool. The animal's fine. But this is why I retired from modeling. It's just stressful. 37:10 Fire him. 37:15 Oh, man. Animals are great. One more thing. 37:20 People will steal from down by down. People will rise. 37:31 OMT, Dana. 37:32 So a local board meeting in Oregon turned very contentious on Tuesday, and there was a live stream video. Well, what happened was a current county chair, Catherine Harrington, she snapped. She flipped the bird at an opponent. She was blocking her view. She later apologized. The thing is, you have to flip the bird very subtly when you're in a meeting. You need to know how to do it. You can do it under the table. You can do it under the podium. 37:54 Not like Beckel. All I know is, if it's a news story, why do we have to blur it? It's not like we're doing it. They're doing it. 38:04 All right. Tonight, we've got a great show. We have Brian Kilmeade. You might know him from God knows what. Michael Malice. That's tonight. Let's do this. Greg's white news. That's right. All the news that's white. 38:20 Tonight, we go to Cincinnati, a zoo where the fennec fox, which is the world's smallest fox species, has now a white fennec fox. Do you know that they're only receptive to mating for just one or two days a year? Oh, man. 38:38 And then they get physically stuck together. That's a copulatory tie, Dana. Their ears can grow up to six inches long. That happens in dogs, too. That's twice, Jessie. Yeah. 38:50 Anyway, that's my white news for today. Three inches is just fine, Greg. All right, Jess. I think you're next. 38:56 You were the smallest. Would you please? All right. I want to let you guys know about something that's happening over the weekend. It's going to be Saturday. It's the Peter Chesson Memorial Car Show. Classics all over the place at Moreland Farm in Far Hills. Hot rods, trucks. It's all there. We got live music, food. It's going to be a lot of the fun. 39:15 Jesse Jr. is going to be there. The event benefits Greater Newark Life Camp and local first responders. Check out more at thepetercarshow.org. Great day for a great cause. Tonight, Jesse, what is primetime? Happy DEI Wednesday. What? Yeah. 39:33 All right, Emily. 39:34 All right, guys, our very own Trace Gallagher has come out with an amazing book. He shares his life lessons. It's called Turns Out They Were Right All Along, Life Lessons I Learned Eventually. This book just came out yesterday, and through personal stories and some humor, he reflects on a lot of wisdom that finally made sense years later from the advice that he got. Love it. So pick it up for sure. 39:56 So glad he wrote it. Well, that's exciting. We don't have time for you, Harold. 40:01 White news! 40:03 Listen to The Five ad-free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.